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Post by HRFunk on Nov 24, 2018 8:45:43 GMT -5
Hi all! I've been wanting to get my hands on a 509 for over a year. I finally managed to bring one home for a review. To see how it did for me, check out the video below!
Howard
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Post by Carolinaman on Nov 24, 2018 20:56:14 GMT -5
Hello Howard,
Thank you for the excellent video and the FN 509 has a lot of great features that I didn't know about. I think that your comments about the trigger really rang home with me and I am very grateful for your honesty about the trigger. I wonder at this point whether continued "break-in" might make things a bit better or if FN Manufacturing might have a solution.
Thank you for posting the video. It was very interesting.
Chris
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Post by HRFunk on Nov 25, 2018 8:28:42 GMT -5
Hello Howard, Thank you for the excellent video and the FN 509 has a lot of great features that I didn't know about. I think that your comments about the trigger really rang home with me and I am very grateful for your honesty about the trigger. I wonder at this point whether continued "break-in" might make things a bit better or if FN Manufacturing might have a solution. Thank you for posting the video. It was very interesting. Chris You're welcome Chris, thanks for watching! You are right, the 509 has a LOT going for it. I've wondered the same thing about the trigger improving with more shooting (not to mention my getting more used to it which would also probably help). At this point, I'm waffling back and forth between keeping the 509 and shooting the daylights out of it; or, sending it back to FN to see if they can make it behave better; or, trading it on something else that might work better right out of the box. I know Apex tactical makes some trigger upgrades for the 509, so that would probably be door #3, option wise (or is that 4?). If this was an issue pistol that I HAD to carry, then I would go the "shooting the daylights out of it" direction. Since, however, it is not, I'm in a bit of a quandary. Maybe I should post a poll and see what the majority of viewers would like to see me do with it. Now, if I only knew how to post a poll....... Howard |
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Post by Carolinaman on Nov 25, 2018 9:10:47 GMT -5
Hello Howard,
You can create a poll when you create a thread. You will see the "poll button" in the top RH quadrant of the screen. At this point, you can just list the questions and await responses. I vote to attempt to break it in some more and than see what happens. Also, a quick call to the service techs at FN in Columbia, SC might get some interesting answers.
Chris
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Post by gt40doc on Nov 25, 2018 12:34:59 GMT -5
I would be prone to talk with FN about the trigger, and then send it to them if they will correct the problem. If FN will do nothing about the trigger, and I REALLY LIKE this handgun, then perhaps the Apex System is the way to go. This firearm holds no interest for me in the least, so perhaps my suggestions should be "null and void"!!
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Post by HRFunk on Nov 26, 2018 10:11:41 GMT -5
I would be prone to talk with FN about the trigger, and then send it to them if they will correct the problem. If FN will do nothing about the trigger, and I REALLY LIKE this handgun, then perhaps the Apex System is the way to go. This firearm holds no interest for me in the least, so perhaps my suggestions should be "null and void"!! I will probably contact FN and see what they have to say, but I have a suspicion that my 509 is within their trigger specifications (based upon the pull-weight and the fact it makes the pistol go bang). I'm not sure I feel like dropping the money into an Apex trigger or going to the hassle of installing it. Sooner or later I'll decide what I want to do with it. Howard |
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Post by gt40doc on Nov 26, 2018 12:57:29 GMT -5
Decisions----decisions---decisions!!! There are soooo many really nice handguns available today, and with no problems out of the box.
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Post by HRFunk on Dec 9, 2018 16:13:19 GMT -5
Here is part-2 of my comparisson between the 509 and the Hi Power. I think you guys are going to like this one!
Howard
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Post by gt40doc on Dec 10, 2018 14:43:47 GMT -5
Brrrrrr, that does not look like a "fun range trip", but thanks for the comparison shoot off. Sometimes, newer is just not always better!! I agree with you that the P35 is an elegant looking and feeling handgun. I admit that I am old school, and am a steel and wood kind of handgun guy.
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Post by HRFunk on Dec 11, 2018 8:18:45 GMT -5
Brrrrrr, that does not look like a "fun range trip", but thanks for the comparison shoot off. Sometimes, newer is just not always better!! I agree with you that the P35 is an elegant looking and feeling handgun. I admit that I am old school, and am a steel and wood kind of handgun guy. I think it's safe to say I'm "old school" too. Still, there are some modern rifles and pistols I enjoy shooting. Even so, like I said in the video, they just don't have the same sense of "cool" that the older guns do. There's something about shooting a firearm that you know was used by historic figures, or in historic events. They give you a tangible connection to those people/events. I can't handle my M1 without seeing the black and white footage of the Normandy invasion, or imagining the 1st Marine Division at the Chosin. Howard |
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Post by CXM on Dec 12, 2018 8:25:13 GMT -5
Great videos Howard... Thanks for the hard work you put in... shooting in cold weather isn't much fun (of course I'm a Southern boy.) Any time you do such a comparison you are going to get some people saying "why didn't you..." There are so many variables it would take ages to cover even most of them... so I rate your two videos as A+... Not only A+ but enjoyable to watch too. For long time now I have been a fan of the High Power and whilst I'm delighted to see it win the comparisons I have to observe we are comparing a $500 +/- pistol with a $1,100 pistol... That said I would (and have) bought High Powers over modern plastic guns many times. I'm a bit perplexed about your trigger issues. My 509 does not have as good a trigger as a single action pistol and isn't likely to ever have one (I have not used the Apex trigger modified 509s so I can't comment on that.) Still, the trigger on my 509 isn't bad at all... and it delivers sufficient accuracy for my needs... naturally the more I shoot it the better it gets (or I get better with it...  Though it is not easy to describe how a trigger feels with words, the trigger on your 509 sounds a low worse than mine... Ultimately, there is no plastic gun I would take in preference to the HP for full size guns. The cheaper plastic guns do have their place... for example for a car gun where the gun is likely to get banged up or for conditions where a gun is likely to get rough use and limited maintenance. Like you I find the weight difference trifling. After watching both videos, and hearing your commentary on the 509 trigger I wonder if you might have some sort of problem with the pistol's trigger. In any case I really like your videos... very professional work and fun to watch too... thanks. V/r Chuck |
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Post by HRFunk on Dec 12, 2018 19:34:55 GMT -5
Thanks Chuck! From what I've been able to gather from the comments I've received on YT and some other websites, I'm getting the idea that there is quite a bit of variation from triger to trigger on the 509. It appears mine is not one of the better ones. The fact that the sights seem to be off too just compounds the problem. No problem, I'll happily keep shooting my Hi Power and trade the 509 on something else to review in the future. Howard Great videos Howard... Thanks for the hard work you put in... shooting in cold weather isn't much fun (of course I'm a Southern boy.) Any time you do such a comparison you are going to get some people saying "why didn't you..." There are so many variables it would take ages to cover even most of them... so I rate your two videos as A+... Not only A+ but enjoyable to watch too. For long time now I have been a fan of the High Power and whilst I'm delighted to see it win the comparisons I have to observe we are comparing a $500 +/- pistol with a $1,100 pistol... That said I would (and have) bought High Powers over modern plastic guns many times. I'm a bit perplexed about your trigger issues. My 509 does not have as good a trigger as a single action pistol and isn't likely to ever have one (I have not used the Apex trigger modified 509s so I can't comment on that.) Still, the trigger on my 509 isn't bad at all... and it delivers sufficient accuracy for my needs... naturally the more I shoot it the better it gets (or I get better with it... Though it is not easy to describe how a trigger feels with words, the trigger on your 509 sounds a low worse than mine... Ultimately, there is no plastic gun I would take in preference to the HP for full size guns. The cheaper plastic guns do have their place... for example for a car gun where the gun is likely to get banged up or for conditions where a gun is likely to get rough use and limited maintenance. Like you I find the weight difference trifling. After watching both videos, and hearing your commentary on the 509 trigger I wonder if you might have some sort of problem with the pistol's trigger. In any case I really like your videos... very professional work and fun to watch too... thanks. V/r Chuck |
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Post by ruber on Dec 12, 2018 20:13:08 GMT -5
Hey all, on my FNP, the stamped parts are quite susceptible to corrosion, especially the slide release. Have they fixed that for the 509?
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Post by CXM on Dec 13, 2018 8:05:16 GMT -5
The finish on my 509 seems to be very durable... but I have not had it long enough to be able to say with any authority... I can say I like the 509 a lot... When you look at the price point on the 509 and look at what it sells for to military/police I would expect it is going to enjoy quite a bit of success with agencies that currently use the FN-HP. If you look at the 509 as a military pistol (which it was designed to be) I think it is a very good gun indeed... it isn't a HP of course but I'd think it will give very good service in M&P service... and at a much lower price than the HP... they can buy about 2.5 509s for the price of a HP, which is a big factor for any agency. The 509 is also rated for unlimited use +P ammo which will be seen as an advantage (I use +P in my cast frame HPs and don't worry about it... but that is just me.) Have you contacted FN about the rust problems? I'd be interested in hearing their reaction. FWIW CHuck Hey all, on my FNP, the stamped parts are quite susceptible to corrosion, especially the slide release. Have they fixed that for the 509? |
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Post by HRFunk on Dec 13, 2018 9:04:54 GMT -5
Hey all, on my FNP, the stamped parts are quite susceptible to corrosion, especially the slide release. Have they fixed that for the 509? I haven't noticed any rust/corrosion on my 509, but it really has not been exposed to much in the way of moisture or humidity. I agree with Chuck, the finish seems to be quite durable. Howard |
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Though it is not easy to describe how a trigger feels with words, the trigger on your 509 sounds a low worse than mine...
