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Post by pjk9hp on Nov 29, 2017 23:35:41 GMT -5
Somewhere in this forum, I posted photos of serrations depicting the difference between the levels of serration crests against the external wall surface of the slide. Days later, I became curious if there are other variations during the manufacturing process as to these serrations e.g. how many are there supposed to be (from the tool room / prototype, trial, pre-war, German occupation and up to present). So I got into my files again, visited some forums, and selected photo samples (as always, credits go to the photo owners especially on those possible photobucket photos from internet sites I can no longer identify). Indeed there were variations (and some odd features) that existed along the line. The photos also included variations of the sear lever hole position on each side as available. Note: If I have erred on some ID of the pistols here or information as to my counting of the number serrations or position of the sear holes, please let me know so I can take note of it. Tool Room / Prototype / Pre-1935 Tool room samples with 18 serrations (screen shot and photos from www.gunsandammo.com/tv/browning-hi-power-pistol & www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2015/01/30/tfb-field-trip-john-m-browning-firearms-museum/).      Pre-1935 with 22 serrations (same source as the tool room samples).  |
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Post by pjk9hp on Nov 29, 2017 23:36:36 GMT -5
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Post by pjk9hp on Nov 29, 2017 23:37:28 GMT -5
Internal Extractor (Pre-war / Inglis Canada) Pre-War Sample with 23 serrations (photo from unidentified gun forum/site).  Inglis Hi-Power with 24 serrations (some photos from unidentified gun forum, last 2 photos from Adrian Stevenson @ warrelics.euforum).
   Close-up of 1/2 and 1/4 Serration Tangent Sight BHP showing a 1/2 serration (enlarged photo from unidentified gun forum/site).  Tangent Sight BHP showing a 1/4 serration (enlarged photo from unidentified gun forum/site).  |
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Post by pjk9hp on Nov 29, 2017 23:40:54 GMT -5
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Post by pjk9hp on Nov 29, 2017 23:41:42 GMT -5
Beer Can Sight Beer can sight models with 23 serrations, sear lever hole between 10th & 11th or @ 11th serration (photos from unidentified gun forum/site).    T-Series & FN Herstal Logo T-Series with 22 serrations plus 1/2 (or 3/4?) serration, sear lever hole @ 11th serration, between 11th & 12th serrations (photos from unidentified gun forum/site).    FN Herstal Logo with 23 serrations, sear lever hole between 10th & 11th serration (photo from unidentified gun forum/site) .  Sport & Competition Model Sport model with 23 serrations, sear lever hole @ 11th serration, between 10th & 11th serration (photos from unidentified gun forum/site).   Competition model with 23 serrations, sear lever hole between 14th & 15th serration, between 15th & 16th serration (photos from unidentified gun forum/site).   |
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Post by pjk9hp on Nov 29, 2017 23:42:28 GMT -5
Iraqi Golden Gun Gaddafi’s golden gun with 23 serrations, sear lever hole @ 11th serration (photo from i.ytimg.com/vi/iG0Ztm8xK4c/maxresdefault.jpg ).  Another golden gun with 22 serrations. Sear lever hole @ 10th serration (photo from unidentified gun forum/site).  Browning Arms Company (BAC) Utah, Montreal Roll Marked BAC HP with 23 serrations, sear lever hole between 10th & 11th serrations (photo from unidentified gun forum/site).  BAC HP (3-line roll marks on slide right side) with 23 serrations, sear lever hole between 10th & 11th serrations (photos from Mister Coffee @ highpowercollectors.proboards.com/thread/320/2-line-3 ).   |
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Post by pjk9hp on Nov 29, 2017 23:43:41 GMT -5
Argentinian Hi-Powers DGFM Rosario HP, FN-Browning Argentina with 23 serrations, sear lever hole @ 11th serration (photos from en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Browning_Hi-Power#/media/File:BrowningRosarina.JPG , www.icollector.com/Fine-Firearms-Edged-Weapons-Militaria-Auction_as36881_p9 ).   FM Hi-Power Argentina with 23 serrations, sear lever hole between 10th & 11th serrations.  FEG Hi-Powers P9 Model with 22 serrations plus 1/2 serration, sear lever hole between 11th & 12th serrations, @ 12th serration (1st two photos from tipoc @ forums.1911forum.com, remaining photos from pjk9hp) .   imageupload  images upload    screen capture windows 7 P9M Model with 22 serrations plus 1/2 serration, sear lever hole between 11th & 12th serrations (photos from unidentified gun forum/site).   P9M 40cal with 22 serrations plus 1/2 serration, sear lever hole between 11th & 12th serrations (photos from www.icollector.com/Lithuanian-Police-Model-P9M-SA-Pistol-by-FEG_i15298224 ).  image hosting over 5mb  image share  FP9 Model with 22 serrations plus 1/2 serration, sear lever hole between 11th & 12th serrations (1st photo from unidentified gun forum/site, remaining photos from www.deactivated-guns.co.uk/detail/feg_gold.htm & www.deactivated-guns.co.uk/deactivated-guns/modern-deactivated-guns/deactivated-old-spec-feg-fp9-high-power-9mm-pistol/prod_3289.html ).      |
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Post by pjk9hp on Nov 29, 2017 23:44:41 GMT -5
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Post by pjk9hp on Nov 29, 2017 23:45:53 GMT -5
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Post by Mister Coffee on Nov 30, 2017 0:32:40 GMT -5
Outstanding thread, pjk9hp. Your thoroughness simply cannot be surpassed.
By the way, that American Rifleman history of the Hi-Power is the best that I have ever read.
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Post by pjk9hp on Nov 30, 2017 1:00:10 GMT -5
Thank you so much Mister Coffee. I greatly appreciate your kind comment.
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Post by CXM on Nov 30, 2017 9:45:05 GMT -5
WOW! That is an amazing document... I know it took a LOT of work...
Thanks very much for a most interesting post.
V/r
Chuck
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Post by Bob Reed on Nov 30, 2017 10:17:29 GMT -5
Yes! Thanks a Million for taking the time to compose all of this - you did an outstanding job.
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Post by abninftr on Nov 30, 2017 14:56:10 GMT -5
That is an excellent compilation, thank you.
I suspect that the reason there is variation is that the number of serrations is not fixed, but the length of the area, along with the depth, angle, spacing, etc., into which the serrations are machined is specified in the engineering drawings as would be the normal manufacturing procedure.
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