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Post by dbur on Dec 16, 2022 23:58:27 GMT -5
I have a PJK-9HP imported by Kassnar Ind, Harrisburg, PA. SN: F25xxx. I'm having a few issues. 1. When I rack the slide back and engage the safety in the second notch the Slide stop catch does not clear the slot in the sub frame and so cannot be extracted. I need to disengage the safety and while holding the slide allow it to move forward about 1.5mm and then the slide stop can be removed. It only takes 4 arms to do this, and not being an alien I have to resort to some wedges and crap to get it done. Is this really how it is supposed to work? It looks so simple in the Ytube video. I notice in that video the clearance hole in the slide looks like this (see link), but mine is the photos link.. This interferes with the catch on the slide stop so that it cannot raise up enough to clear the slot in subframe. If the safety catch slot held the slide about 1.5mm less far back, or if the clearance hole looked like the one from the video it would work just fine, I think.
Do I dare rework my slide stop clearance hole to look like the one in the video?
2. I have some feed problems where sometimes a spent casing does not fully eject, and sometime the next round hangs up on the barrel ramp. Any advice?
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Post by tnorris on Dec 17, 2022 1:23:46 GMT -5
I have a PJK-9HP imported by Kassnar Ind, Harrisburg, PA. SN: F25xxx.
I'm having a few issues. 2. I have some feed problems where sometimes a spent casing does not fully eject, and sometime the next round hangs up on the barrel ramp. Any advice?
FEG redesigned the slide stop and engagement slot for some of the pistols. Others, mostly earlier ones, were more identical to the original design. I can't tell if yours is the redesigned model from your picture, but I think it is. Show us a picture with the entire slide stop, please. I wonder if you have a mismatched slide stop.
For the ejection/feed problems, you should probably look at the extractor and its spring. If it isn't catching the rim of the spent round (weak/worn out spring), this could be causing your ejection/feed problem. You should also look at the recoil spring and probably the recoil spring guide rod. These are replaceable parts... they do not last forever.
I bought an FEG with the original type slide stop... it was beat up a bit but only $300. The safety never worked but it functioned OK. When I learned enough to work on them I discovered how poorly made it was. Because it had two different import marks, I believe it was rejected by on importer and purchased by another. I eventually corrected the incredibly poor finishing in the safety area and, with some assistance from BHSS, had it fitted with the SFS kit... plus new everything. It had many problems, but now it functions quite nicely. I have seen similar and different problems in a very nice looking Charles Daly High Power, also made by FEG. It seems to function quite well after some corrections.
Show us another picture and I would bet someone here can help you sort it out!
Cheers,
Tim
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Post by ToddSig on Dec 17, 2022 10:04:21 GMT -5
Welcome to HPC dbur. As Tim notes in his post, FEG made two different slide cuts and slide stops. From the image you linked to, it is showing the newer or sometimes called the modified slide cut. It has a much smaller notch than the original design. I cant tell for sure which slide stop you have, but it may be an original style. So you have a modified slide, and what possibly could be the original slide stop, so a mismatch. I have never tried to switch them to see if they would fit/work. Something to check out. I will try and post later today. Re the ejection problems, as Tim also notes you should check the springs, and you might try some different mags. Also, if you have a mismatched slide and slide stop, that could be a contributing factor. Some images The original slide cut, larger notch when compared to the newer modified version Notice the long flat top of the cut.  Image of an original slide stop  Modified or newer version of the slide cut, note how it is much smaller than the original notch. Notice, notch on slide is almost a triangle, and does not have the long flat top of the original.   Modified slide stop  |
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Post by ToddSig on Dec 17, 2022 10:41:11 GMT -5
Just checked to see if you could interchange the two slide stops. Short answer is yes for the modified, and no for the original. The main shaft of each slide stop is fine, they fit through the each frame and guide rod without issue. The modified slide stop end tab which fits into the notch is cut and oriented differently than the original. When you align the shafts of the two slide stops one over the other, the modified stop tab is slightly narrower, and is oriented more toward the right, while the original is a little wider with more coverage to the left. Some filing would easily make it work. The modified slide stop fits and seems to function in both the original style slide and the modified slide. The original slide stop is not interchangeable and only works in an original style of the slide. A few images.    |
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Post by dbur on Dec 17, 2022 13:43:20 GMT -5
Thanks for that detailed response! My slider does have the small triangle opening and the stop is the one with the big round tab to the left, so yes it looks like I have an old stop and a new slider. My slider is black and the lower is painted green, which is a color scheme I haven't seen elsewhere yet. The barrel and slide SN's do match.
My slide spring seems pretty strong. I think I see elsewhere it's supposed to be fairly easy to operate the slide, but mine takes a fair effort. I wonder if it has been fitted with a stronger spring. How to tell? The spring guide has a C shaped end rather than a full circle.
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Post by dbur on Dec 17, 2022 14:45:48 GMT -5
After getting this notch fixed and lubing everything up I notice my safety doesn't seem to be working very well. It seems like maybe the little tab on the end of the safety arm is worn down a bit and not stopping the sear movement like it should.
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Post by ToddSig on Dec 17, 2022 14:56:34 GMT -5
Looks like possibly the slide notch has been filed to accept the early style slide stop. Or perhaps the shape from the factor was not clean on an original style. Hard to say for sure. There is no such thing as a "C" shaped guide rod. It is broken/damaged, and you need to replace it. Numrich has them at www.gunpartscorp.com/products/1605630BAlso, your safety has been modified. The paddle has been added. It might be wise to replace the safety as well if not functioning as it should. If you do that, depending on wear (and it looks like there is a lot), you might need to replace the hammer and the sear. Again, Numrich has the replacement parts. |
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Post by CXM on Dec 18, 2022 3:45:38 GMT -5
Buying a FEG is/was always a sort of "luck of the draw" sort of transaction. My first FEG bought circa 1995 was in every respect I can measure equal to a FN high power and the finish was nicer that most HPs. It is one of the few guns that survived the big auction sale to draw down the size of my collection... The second one was a problem from the start... it was a later gun with the improved thumb safety. It had all sorts of problems including a 'walking' trigger pin, front sight falling off and poor finish. It was hard to believe it was made in the same factory as the first. The first gun is still as I bought it less the magazine/trigger interface. The second became the frame for one of my Argentine 'Detective' model HPs. I had it Cera-coat applied to it and it looks quite nice now. I was able to fix the 'walking' trigger pin and it is a good shooter now... but I invested more money than that gun warranted in it. Good thing is HPs are easy to work on. Anyway if you get a good one you get a really good gun... if you get a bad one it is a real pain. FWIW Chuck I have a PJK-9HP imported by Kassnar Ind, Harrisburg, PA. SN: F25xxx.
I'm having a few issues. 2. I have some feed problems where sometimes a spent casing does not fully eject, and sometime the next round hangs up on the barrel ramp. Any advice?
FEG redesigned the slide stop and engagement slot for some of the pistols. Others, mostly earlier ones, were more identical to the original design. I can't tell if yours is the redesigned model from your picture, but I think it is. Show us a picture with the entire slide stop, please. I wonder if you have a mismatched slide stop. For the ejection/feed problems, you should probably look at the extractor and its spring. If it isn't catching the rim of the spent round (weak/worn out spring), this could be causing your ejection/feed problem. You should also look at the recoil spring and probably the recoil spring guide rod. These are replaceable parts... they do not last forever. I bought an FEG with the original type slide stop... it was beat up a bit but only $300. The safety never worked but it functioned OK. When I learned enough to work on them I discovered how poorly made it was. Because it had two different import marks, I believe it was rejected by on importer and purchased by another. I eventually corrected the incredibly poor finishing in the safety area and, with some assistance from BHSS, had it fitted with the SFS kit... plus new everything. It had many problems, but now it functions quite nicely. I have seen similar and different problems in a very nice looking Charles Daly High Power, also made by FEG. It seems to function quite well after some corrections.
Show us another picture and I would bet someone here can help you sort it out! Cheers, Tim
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Post by dbur on Dec 18, 2022 20:29:58 GMT -5
The paddled safety is one of the standard options FEG used. I found a history and pictures of those somewhere. The slide had the newer triangular stop cutout but all the rest of the gun is the older stuff. A slight reshaping of that cutout fixed the stop removal difficulty. I will have to remove the safety lever and do something as it looks like the sear stop pin is worn down a bit. I understand even on new safeties that pin needs to be filed down for optimum operation in the gun. At least that's what some safety replacement suppliers say.
Is there some spec for the slider spring strength should be that I could check mine against? Mine seems stronger than it ought to be.
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Post by ToddSig on Dec 19, 2022 9:31:53 GMT -5
The paddled safety is one of the standard options FEG used. I found a history and pictures of those somewhere. The slide had the newer triangular stop cutout but all the rest of the gun is the older stuff. A slight reshaping of that cutout fixed the stop removal difficulty. I will have to remove the safety lever and do something as it looks like the sear stop pin is worn down a bit. I understand even on new safeties that pin needs to be filed down for optimum operation in the gun. At least that's what some safety replacement suppliers say. Is there some spec for the slider spring strength should be that I could check mine against? Mine seems stronger than it ought to be. Glad to hear the reliability and functionality are starting to come together for you. I have never seen an FEG OEM safety like what is on your frame. If you have a reference point or source image for a similar one, please let us know. FEG did manufacture a modified safety (see images below) which was used on some of their P9/P9M (PJK-9HP) models, as well as the Charles Daly branded FEGs. The one you have looks like a custom modified standard FN/FEG safety with the addition of the extended lever. Cant say so for sure from you images, but it also looks like the sights have been replaced. Here is a link to BH Spring Solutions (BHSS) who sell springs and parts for Hi Powers and clones. There are several recoil spring options to select from depending on how you wish to optimize the FEG. They also have a lot of videos on springs, optimization and how to replace internal parts. Well worth surfing through and watching. bhspringsolutions.com/index.php/product-category/shop-by-department/gun-springs/hi-power-spring-kits/feg-springs/Here are a couple of images of the modified FEG safety. If you have a source or image of an FEG OEM safety like yours, I would like to see it. I believe it is a customized safety, which is not a bad thing.   |
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Post by dbur on Dec 20, 2022 19:16:39 GMT -5
W ![]() ell I thought I had found a page that showed 3 or 4 safety styles, but can't find it again. I thought one matched mine but have to say I'm not sure now. It may be my safety is a special/mongrel of some sort. Why would they put the serrations under the extended lever where they serve no purpose anyway?
Haven't seen one in any internet search that looks like mine with the weird combination of black slide, green lower, mismatched slide and stop lever, and now non-standard safety lever.
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Post by CXM on Dec 21, 2022 15:59:09 GMT -5
The serrations under the paddle of the thumb safety is to provide a better gripping surface for using just the thumb to actuate or deactivate the safety. I'm not sure just how useful it is but that is the thought.
You will find this on a number of safeties for the 1911 pistol, including some Colts.
FWIW
Chuck
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Post by dbur on Jan 12, 2023 19:30:05 GMT -5
I found where my safety lever comes from. It's the same as the one on this gun. Browning FN MK I. Though not all of them.
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Post by tnorris on Jan 13, 2023 4:37:37 GMT -5
I found where my safety lever comes from. It's the same as the one on this gun. Browning FN MK I. Though not all of them.
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Good morning,
The picture you posted is an Inglis Mk 1 High Power, made in Canada during WWll. It looks like it has been lovingly refinished and customized and has an aftermarket safety lever. Good catch, spotting a safety similar to yours in that video! I am fairly certain that is not an original Inglis or FN safety.
Yours, by the wear pattern, looks like an original FEG part for your particular FEG pistol. However as Toddsig noted; it appears to be a part that has been modified.
Cheers
Tim
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Post by ToddSig on Jan 13, 2023 8:53:15 GMT -5
I agree with Tim. The video Inlgis has been refinished, the safety replaced or original and modified and extended, original slide stop replaced with an RDIH extended slide stop, and grips replaced. The FEG safety is replaced or modified, but certainly not original/stock to an FEG.
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