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Post by dueodde on Jun 12, 2019 23:48:16 GMT -5
Gentlemen, permit me another neophyte question. If you had to choose one of these for as a daily, working sidearm, the one you practice most with at the range, considering especially reliability, feel, accuracy... which would it be of these three? 1. A 1965 Browning Hi Power (Mk I presumably) - (grips on this one here are newer than 1965) - with option to upgrade grips 2. A near mint 75th Anniversary Hi Power Standard from 2010, which then could be customized with better grips if need be 3. An Israeli surplus Mk III which has been professionally cleaned up, cerakoted, and new Hogue grips installed much apprciated Is there one that clearly stands out? Is the 75th anniversary series a better quality build? Your time & advice much appreciated D.
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Post by abninftr on Jun 13, 2019 0:50:08 GMT -5
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Post by tnorris on Jun 13, 2019 8:04:41 GMT -5
They should all shoot and function the same. I'd carry the surplus ex-Israeli, too.
My everyday carry pistol is an alloy frame with a detective slide. It's a little shorter and considerably lighter than normal... still shoots just like a High Power. Some days I want to have her refinished. Most of the time I just appreciate the wear marks and wonder what she's seen.
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Post by CXM on Jun 13, 2019 12:12:38 GMT -5
I'd go for the MkIII. Their ivestment cast frames are expected to give longer life with modern loads... plus they are normally good with HP bullets without any work.
FWIW
Chuck
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Post by Mister Coffee on Jun 13, 2019 13:03:31 GMT -5
2. A near mint 75th Anniversary Hi Power Standard from 2010, which then could be customized with better grips if need be
^^That one.
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Post by gt40doc on Jun 13, 2019 13:39:28 GMT -5
I would pick the 75th Anni. BHP. You know it is like new, and then "make it yours" with whatever changes you desire. I own, and shoot a 75th Anni. BHP, and it is a great shooter. I had Don Williams do his magic to it, and could not be more pleased.
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Post by jonfhp40 on Jun 13, 2019 14:32:28 GMT -5
I'd suggest the Israeli Mk III, assuming that in addition to the clean=up, etc. that all springs and any suspect components replaced. It strikes me as a better "hard use" daily carry gun; if nothing else, it's finish would be less susceptible to wear. But I'd want a qualified High Power gunsmith to thoroughly go through it first.
Second, the Standard Anniversary would certainly suffice, but its adjustable sights might be a bit more prone to damage, and that magnificent Standard finish would quickly exhibit some wear marks...
Best, Jon
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Post by dueodde on Jun 13, 2019 23:21:41 GMT -5
Thank you all for your advice. Is the 75th Anniversary Hi Power Standard (2010) actually a higher quality product than the pistols which preceeded it or followed it? Tighter fit, better quality control?
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Post by tnorris on Jun 14, 2019 6:28:03 GMT -5
They are all high quality products!
I have three with the more modern cast frames, two from the early '80s, a Tisas and an FEG... plus a 1943 model. When I give them the "shake test", they all rattle just a bit, except for the 1943 and the Tisas. I have yet to full inspect my new 1943 but all of my FN guns and the Tisas exhibit equal (very good) QC and ALL OF THEM, including the FEG, shoot equally well (I have not yet fired or cleaned the 1943).
If I could have only one and it was intended to be a shooter, I would go with the Israeli Mk III, probably replace all the springs, acquire a a few spare parts and shoot it enough to trust it completely.
As a shooter/collector, each is different enough to thoroughly enjoy and I would acquire them all depending on their cost and my budget.
There is no correct answer... They all will shoot well and all are high quality products. Which one will give YOU the most pride in ownership if you could have only one?
I expect you will have great fun!!!
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Post by gunhand on Jun 14, 2019 11:16:35 GMT -5
The one that you have shot at least 300-500 rounds of the defensive JHP ammo you intend to carry, and it works flawlessly!
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Post by rodinal220 on Jul 13, 2019 13:53:47 GMT -5
Either a MKII or MKIII. I prefer the dovetailed front of the III, but MKII can be upgraded by a competent smith if your adding Novak of Heinie sights. I have a MMKIII Practical with upgraded Novak sights that runs like a champ. Even a standard MKIII, with stock fixed sights and plastic grips works just fine. I would love to score one of the surplus aluminum framed ones just to try it out. The Tisas BR9 is my current training HP, its proprietary sights are similar to the Novaks.
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Post by dueodde on Jul 13, 2019 14:34:10 GMT -5
Thanks a lot for your and everyone's comments. I made an easy decision and just started buying all of them. I will post up a gallery of them once I actually receive, inspect and clean them all. It is a nice little collection I have started. Next up for discussion is this offer I got - apparently one of a rather limited run of 100 in 1980 for the Browning Collector's Association - here is the description, and low def photo attached. I will attach better photos when I get them. Any comments as to the particular value or history behind this limited 1980 run? --Ray "Special very low serial # (54 out of 100) for Browning Collectors Association special edition"
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Post by gunhand on Jul 16, 2019 15:24:50 GMT -5
Here is my new (to me) Hi-Power Practical in 40 S&W. I just had the Cylinder & Slide no-bite duty hammer and sear kit, extended thumb safety, and the magazine disconnect removed. Hopefully I'll be able to go to the range this weekend and proof it, then it will be my carry gun. Attachments:
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