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Post by HRFunk on Aug 24, 2018 7:09:52 GMT -5
For all of you who asked, I disassembled the R51 and recorded everything I could find that Remington did to improve the functioning. Take a look at the video, and see if you can see anything I missed!
Howard
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Post by CXM on Aug 24, 2018 7:29:58 GMT -5
Nice video Howard... I suspect the block was replaced on the gun... though I didn't get a close up look, I didn't see any indications they milled the lip off the block... Maybe that is the difference... Also, the weld on the back of the right hand magazine was less well finished/polished than on the left hand magazine... I don't see that making much if any difference in function, but it is a difference... Maybe you helped Remington fix their R51 problems...  Thanks for another excellent video. V/r Chuck |
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Post by HRFunk on Aug 24, 2018 7:47:13 GMT -5
Nice video Howard... I suspect the block was replaced on the gun... though I didn't get a close up look, I didn't see any indications they milled the lip off the block... Maybe that is the difference... Also, the weld on the back of the right hand magazine was less well finished/polished than on the left hand magazine... I don't see that making much if any difference in function, but it is a difference... Maybe you helped Remington fix their R51 problems... Thanks for another excellent video. V/r Chuck You're welcome Chuck! I keep trying to decide if that "lip" was really there or if I imagined it. I wish I had taken a photo of the breechblock before I sent the pistol back. I can't see the face of it well enough in any of my videos to be absolutely certain. Howard |
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Post by Carolinaman on Aug 24, 2018 7:53:48 GMT -5
Hello Howard, Great follow-up video and I suppose we will be wondering about the "mystery of the lip" for awhile... Chris |
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Post by HRFunk on Aug 24, 2018 10:52:22 GMT -5
Hello Howard, Great follow-up video and I suppose we will be wondering about the "mystery of the lip" for awhile... Chris OK, see what you think of this. After comparing a photo of the breech block of another R51 (sent to me by another owner), it appear the projection at the bottom of the breech face of my pistol was shortened noticeably. His is definitely longer and more pointed than mine (I know, that sounds weird, but stick with me). The malfunctions I was experiencing only happened on the first round from a full magazine when there was already a round loaded in the chamber. Upon firing, that longer projection might drag across the rim of the top round in the magazine. Under full magazine spring tension, the pressure exerted against the rim of the case as the slide/breech block was moving rearward, might have caused the front of the cartridge (i.e. the bullet) to cock slightly upward in the magazine. As the slide came forward, the breech face would strike the base of the cartridge that was now at too steep an angle to move up the feed ramp as it normally would. Instead, the bullet would move forward and jam against the top of the barrel. In some instances, the drag/snag against the cartridge rim was so strong that the entire cartridge was pulled/flipped out of the magazine. In those instances, the cartridge was either captured by the slide and wedged against the barrel, or it exited the ejection port with the spent casing. Those were exactly the malfunctions I was experiencing, that that longer projection on the breech block COULD have caused them in that manner. (Does this all sound a little mentally ill?) Howard |
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Post by Bob Reed on Aug 24, 2018 16:19:32 GMT -5
Howard, that was very well described and makes a bit of sense ta boot. Do the feed lips on the magazines seem wider than normal - I ask because you mentioned the cartridges being pulled/flipped out of the magazine and, I assumed you meant through (or pass) the feed lips.
BTW: If you weren't at least a little mentally ill, you wouldn't fit with us so well.
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Post by CXM on Aug 26, 2018 8:18:40 GMT -5
Interesting information Howard...
Does the R51 your friend has have feed problems?
Thanks
CHuck
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Post by ruber on Aug 26, 2018 9:59:18 GMT -5
Thanks Howard for the great video and explanation! That’s a neat little pistol, hope it keeps working for you.
-Chris
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Post by HRFunk on Aug 26, 2018 20:07:15 GMT -5
Thanks Howard for the great video and explanation! That’s a neat little pistol, hope it keeps working for you. -Chris Thank you! So far, so good! Howard |
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