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Post by CXM on Jun 1, 2018 13:30:40 GMT -5
Very interesting...
I wonder however if the mysterious L S mark doesn't mean "luftschutz' or air defense. The Luftwaffe was responsible for air defense and operated FLAK units pretty much like Army (Heer) artillery units (in fact the heavy AA units operated with the Army and their 8.8cm guns were widely feared by the allies.
Issuing a full size service pistol to Luftschutz units would make sense as opposed to the much less powerful FN 1922 or 1911 pistols in 7.65mm or 9mm kurtz.
Nothing I can prove here... but a thought.
FWIW
Chuck
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Post by CXM on Jun 3, 2018 6:46:06 GMT -5
Very interesting... I wonder however if the mysterious L S mark doesn't mean "luftschutz' or air defense. The Luftwaffe was responsible for air defense and operated FLAK units pretty much like Army (Heer) artillery units (in fact the heavy AA units operated with the Army and their 8.8cm guns were widely feared by the allies. Issuing a full size service pistol to Luftschutz units would make sense as opposed to the much less powerful FN 1922 or 1911 pistols in 7.65mm or 9mm kurtz. Nothing I can prove here... but a thought. FWIW Chuck |
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Post by pjk9hp on Jun 6, 2018 6:03:47 GMT -5
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Post by masnart on Sept 7, 2019 7:48:08 GMT -5
Op. Im lebanese and arabic is my native language. The last one - unidentified- is not ottoman. Its Iraqui contract. For the iraqui army الجيش العراقي  |
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Post by CXM on Sept 7, 2019 8:25:10 GMT -5
First, welcome to Highpowercollectors... we are glad you joined us. Would you be willing to translate the markings on the guns with arabic script markings? If you can it would be very much appreciated. V/r Chuck Op. Im lebanese and arabic is my native language. The last one - unidentified- is not ottoman. Its Iraqui contract. For the iraqui army الجيش العراقي |
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Post by masnart on Sept 7, 2019 8:27:00 GMT -5
First, welcome to Highpowercollectors... we are glad you joined us. Would you be willing to translate the markings on the guns with arabic script markings? If you can it would be very much appreciated. V/r Chuck Op. Im lebanese and arabic is my native language. The last one - unidentified- is not ottoman. Its Iraqui contract. For the iraqui army الجيش العراقي Hey chuck, thanks for the warm welcome. Yes i can translate arabic. Hi power or tarek or maadi or whatever. If there is Arabic, i can translate. |
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Post by masnart on Sept 7, 2019 8:30:54 GMT -5
By the way, it was for the kingdom of iraq (king faysal). Not the republic. The eagle belongs to the republic era  |
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Post by CXM on Sept 7, 2019 10:00:09 GMT -5
That is good to know... these Izzy HPs have always been something of a mystery. It has been assumed they were captured in one of the many wars that part of the world has had to suffer... I know there was one offered for sale 6-8 years ago that had been damaged by a bullet hit... I'll look forward to seeing what you find when you get to translate some of the markings... BTW, if memory serves me Maadi is Egyptian? Thanks Chuck By the way, it was for the kingdom of iraq (king faysal). Not the republic. The eagle belongs to the republic era |
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Post by jonnyc on Sept 7, 2019 18:34:49 GMT -5
Any Arabic-marked weapons surplussed out of Israel would definitely have been captured by Israeli forces in Egypt/Sinai, West Bank, Jordan, Syria, or Lebanon. If from anyplace else, the IDF would have found weapons sent from Iraq, Iran, Saudi Arabia, etc., and in the hands of Palestinians or other guerrilla/terrorist forces.
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Post by CXM on Sept 8, 2019 14:42:38 GMT -5
It's difficult to generalize in that part of the world... there have been so many 'border actions' 'little wars' 'conflicts' 'skirmishes' 'incursions' in addition to bigger squabbles lots of guns changed hands... and once in other hands they often were sold into the international arms markets, which happily sold to anyone willing to pay for the weapons... including the Izzys. None-the-less the great majority of such weapons must have been captured in various wars... 'only thrown down once.' V/r Chuck Any Arabic-marked weapons surplussed out of Israel would definitely have been captured by Israeli forces in Egypt/Sinai, West Bank, Jordan, Syria, or Lebanon. If from anyplace else, the IDF would have found weapons sent from Iraq, Iran, Saudi Arabia, etc., and in the hands of Palestinians or other guerrilla/terrorist forces. |
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Post by coreman on Dec 5, 2020 17:22:33 GMT -5
The last pic... is not Ottoman... it is Jordanian , marked as the ( ARAB ARMY) Which is the histoeic (establisher king) name of the Jordanian army. |
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Post by maja on Apr 13, 2021 4:36:21 GMT -5
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Post by huseyin58 on Feb 21, 2022 6:14:14 GMT -5
hello pictures are not showing
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Post by tnorris on Feb 21, 2022 9:07:36 GMT -5
hello pictures are not showing
Click on his link and the picture will appear in another browser window. Or... at least it worked that way for me.
Cheers.
Tim
His link below:
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Post by ToddSig on Feb 21, 2022 18:29:54 GMT -5
Although the image of the Hi Power symbol was posted back in April, it was only a link. I took the liberty of downloading the image, editing it and linking to it. Interesting mark, looks a little amateurish to me. Looks like an S or a 5 within a triangle.  |
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