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Post by huntershooter on Jul 25, 2017 10:11:26 GMT -5
Ok, Combat Commander. Jim Hoag did this work on a "pre 80 series" Colt in the early 80's. It has his signature work of squared trigger guard and one of, if not the earliest "Beavertail" grip safety's. The pistol is a bit crude by todays standards, but Hoag, Swenson and a couple others set the bar for the "Modern Combat 1911". The pistol is quite accurate having had the barrel lugs welded and re-cut, slide to frame tightened and a lovely 3# trigger. .
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Post by Carolinaman on Jul 25, 2017 10:40:59 GMT -5
Hello,
Oh my gosh! What a nice pistol that you have there! I am officially very, very envious!
Best,
Chris
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Post by gt40doc on Jul 25, 2017 11:40:57 GMT -5
That is one sweet looking commander!! Anyone would be proud to have that handgun in their safe, or in their holster.
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Post by Mister Coffee on Jul 26, 2017 0:26:42 GMT -5
That's a beauty. Jim Hoag did a Hi-Power for me (as I must have said a million times already). Great that you have that.
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Post by noglock on Jul 26, 2017 7:42:52 GMT -5
Wow sir! That one is another candidate for centerfold of the month.
I really like the low profile Hoag carry beavertail. Not crude IMO. It was a design ahead of its time and is imitated today.
The retention of what looks to be a fixed rear sight is also a nice attribute of your pistol. Were the series 80 pistols already out when he tweaked that Colt or did he fabricate the larger rear sight?
I would like to declare my official status as an orphan. I am available for adoption.
Note for readers: Pre-80 series Commanders and Combat Commanders made after 1979 but before the 1983 introduction of the 80 series carry 80 in the serial number. The 80 refers to the calender instead of the ignition parts. This does throw some dogs off the scent and some dealers off in their marketing of used 4.25 inch Colts of the time period depicted.
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Post by noglock on Jul 26, 2017 7:50:19 GMT -5
That's a beauty. Jim Hoag did a Hi-Power for me (as I must have said a million times already). Great that you have that. Can you direct me to the thread.......you know....the one with pictures?
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Post by Mister Coffee on Jul 26, 2017 23:01:59 GMT -5
That's a beauty. Jim Hoag did a Hi-Power for me (as I must have said a million times already). Great that you have that. Can you direct me to the thread.......you know....the one with pictures? It was on another forum, and pictures would not show much. The work was for function and reliability. Delete magazine disconnect. Polish ramp. Trigger job (I said elsewhere that he set the trigger at 3.5-4.0 lbs., but, upon reflection, I think it is closer to a 3.0 lbs.). Apologies to huntershooter for barging in on his thread.
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Post by sistema1927 on Aug 4, 2017 17:44:39 GMT -5
Old school goodness. I like!
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Post by CXM on Aug 5, 2017 10:16:06 GMT -5
This is a Colt's Commander I had lightly customized for IDPA about 15 years ago... I wanted a matched pair so if one was down I could use the other with no lag in muscle memory... It went to Jim Clark's shop in Louisiana for a trigger job, reliability package and a melt down... It got a new hammer, trigger and grip safety (the original Colt's safety would turn the web of your thumb into hamburger it was so sharp... it came back very much to my liking.... This HP was my first customized for competetion... sports Bo-Mar adjustable sights which are sadly no longer made. A gun smith in the Dallas area did the work... it isn't too much to look at but it shoots up a storm... Left Side../ This is probably the best Commander type 1911 I own... an early production Smith & Wesson Scandium frame Commander type 45ACP... this is the first 1911 Type I found usable for competition right out of the box...The light frame balances really well... It is a dream to shoot and performs well in competition... Left view... I wish S&W had used a smaller logo on the slide... something they did in later production... Right view... That is a really nice Commander... I'd bet it shoots well too... Enough for now... I really like the Commander size 1911... John Browning knew what he was talking about when to told the Army they didn't want a 5" design pistol... Army of course knew best... ... as always... V/r Chuck
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Post by Mister Coffee on Aug 6, 2017 13:27:24 GMT -5
Beautiful items, Chuck. Thanks for sharing. I find my 01991 Commander difficult to shoot compared to my Government. How come everyone else is doing better with their Commanders?
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Post by Carolinaman on Aug 6, 2017 19:52:30 GMT -5
Hello Sir, Never had a problem with the two 1991 Commanders that I previous owned and eventually decided to go back to the Colt Series 70 Government Model. Beautiful items, Chuck. Thanks for sharing. I find my 01991 Commander difficult to shoot compared to my Government. How come everyone else is doing better with their Commanders? It had nothing to do with reliability and that I can assure you of.... The commanders shot well, but I just like the original 1911 rendition of the .45 Government Model. Opinions will vary and mileage as well! Chris
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Post by gt40doc on Aug 7, 2017 13:16:33 GMT -5
I believe that I actually shoot my Commander sized 1911s better than I do govt sized 1911s, including Colt Gold Cup. The Commanders just seem to balance better for me. I do handload all of my ammo, and do load "softer" target level loads, especially for the Colt LW Commander in 45ACP.
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Post by CXM on Aug 8, 2017 7:48:45 GMT -5
For day to day shooting I use the old time 45acp load with either Clay's or Bulls-Eye and the very elderly Hensley & Gibbs #68 200gr. SWC bullet. It is easy on the Colt's alloy frame, and very accurate... all in all a good combination. FWIW Chuck I believe that I actually shoot my Commander sized 1911s better than I do govt sized 1911s, including Colt Gold Cup. The Commanders just seem to balance better for me. I do handload all of my ammo, and do load "softer" target level loads, especially for the Colt LW Commander in 45ACP.
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Post by gt40doc on Aug 8, 2017 14:33:00 GMT -5
For my range loads, I also use Bullseye powder. I have tried many different powders in 45ACP brass, but seem to always come back to good old Bullseye. I have been loading the Xteme 185gr PFP for many of my handguns, and the Xtreme 200gr PRN for my WW l and WW ll 1911s. This combo shoots better than I can, and no lead/lube mess. I have gotten even more lazy in my "senior years"!!
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Post by CXM on Aug 9, 2017 11:01:52 GMT -5
I like the Xtreme plated bullets very well... and I use them in 9x19, 40SAW, 357SIG, 9mm Steyr and others... The only reason I don't use them in .45 is I have about three lifetimes worth of cast 230gr RN and 200LSWC from Hunters supply... If I ever use that up I'll go to Xtreme for 45 too... FWIW Chuck For my range loads, I also use Bullseye powder. I have tried many different powders in 45ACP brass, but seem to always come back to good old Bullseye. I have been loading the Xteme 185gr PFP for many of my handguns, and the Xtreme 200gr PRN for my WW l and WW ll 1911s. This combo shoots better than I can, and no lead/lube mess. I have gotten even more lazy in my "senior years"!!
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