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Post by ToddSig on Mar 4, 2022 17:55:50 GMT -5
ToddSig.....the manual was a reproduction and I'll be sending it back. Sorry to hear that RMC, but it least you can send it back. When you mentioned where it was coming from I had some doubts. You had mentioned it did have the revision dates, what tipped you off to it being a repro?
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Post by rmc on Mar 5, 2022 10:01:27 GMT -5
The GB posted picture had revision dates, the manual sent did not. I emailed and said I was sending it back; he said IF I think it's a repro to keep it.
So...lesson learned and thanks. I'm still on the hunt for an original manual!
So far things purchased or received out of ignorance.....an authentic Hi Power plastic box with mold date of 1983 and a repro manual.
One other question......were HP pistols wrapped in anything when new to protect them. I picked some vintage gun wrap and wasn't sure if the HP came wrapped. I know my S&W 439 did.
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Post by Mister Coffee on Mar 5, 2022 12:56:51 GMT -5
ToddSig My rug has a black nylon zipper. Is this unusual? Hey Mr C, the black zipper rugs are not unusual. They were supplied after the brass zipper rugs. From what I have gathered in Browning catalogs, it looks like the black nylon zipper started around 1982, and were offered for a few years after that with new Hi Power purchases. Not sure when they stopped, but definitely at or before the MKIII grey plastics cases came about, which was around 1989/1990. I like the black nylon zipper. I'm not man enough to use a brass zipper on a gun rug. If the brass scratched the bluing, I'd go all to pieces.
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Post by ToddSig on Mar 5, 2022 16:47:48 GMT -5
One other question......were HP pistols wrapped in anything when new to protect them. I picked some vintage gun wrap and wasn't sure if the HP came wrapped. I know my S&W 439 did. Not sure on this, so only guessing. Before the pin stipe boxes in Browning was using the leatherette cases, so probably no paper there, although during the T series period Browning got the pistols in cardboard boxes and they could have been wrapped at that time. For the pinstripe boxes, they had molded Styrofoam, so perhaps not, and the later molded boxes, not much excess room there either. Perhaps someone who purchased Hi Powers new during the period will recall and post.
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Post by ToddSig on Mar 5, 2022 16:48:57 GMT -5
Hey Mr C, the black zipper rugs are not unusual. They were supplied after the brass zipper rugs. From what I have gathered in Browning catalogs, it looks like the black nylon zipper started around 1982, and were offered for a few years after that with new Hi Power purchases. Not sure when they stopped, but definitely at or before the MKIII grey plastics cases came about, which was around 1989/1990. I like the black nylon zipper. I'm not man enough to use a brass zipper on a gun rug. If the brass scratched the bluing, I'd go all to pieces. I had not thought of that, excellent point, and I will now be much more careful when using the brass zipper rugs.
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Post by ToddSig on Mar 7, 2022 14:29:47 GMT -5
Wow, the rug I linked from EBay sold for $180.50. Hi Power accessories prices keep getting higher and higher.This is especially true for accessories in good or better condition.
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Post by rmc on Mar 8, 2022 9:56:34 GMT -5
The one I posted in above post was $75 on Ebay. It was up for auction and I messaged seller and asked for a Buy It Now price and she said make me an offer. I offered up $75 and she took it.
I picked up an what appears to be an original operation manual yesterday for $10.50. It's an earlier edition, late 60's, than what I need, but thought there may be someone here that could use. I'll post pics when I receive. It does seem some of the sellers on Ebay don't actually realize what they have and will just market it because it's gun related and that's where the bargains are.
Unrelated, I picked up a never fired Beretta M9A4 last weekend for a used price. The original buyer was local policeman that purchased then decided he really wanted a .45 and traded it back in. The store can't sell as new so....I got a pretty fair deal. It was another one of my bucket list pistols.
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Post by rmc on Mar 22, 2022 9:55:38 GMT -5
ToddSig.....please take a look at the pics of the manuals I picked up and see if they appear to be authentic. I actually bid on one and they sent 2. Attachments:
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Post by ToddSig on Mar 22, 2022 11:50:17 GMT -5
ToddSig.....please take a look at the pics of the manuals I picked up and see if they appear to be authentic. I actually bid on one and they sent 2. rmc, from the images they do look original. They both appear to have a little surface patina and minor discoloration, and few areas of paper movement, all which is good and adds to the legitimacy.You did well. If you are interested in trading both, please DM me. I checked my manuals, and I have two good quality original 1975 dated manuals. So I can let one go. While the manual style is appropriate for you 1974 Hi Power, but just slightly later. But also, this may be excused after the pistol in manufactured and shipped from FN to Browning for the sales package to be put together, a manual could be slightly later. So I think it is close enough to ge legitimate. It has a 1975 revision date and no ink, intact/connected registration page, blank owner's record page. I have a nice 1967 Browning Tangent Hi Power, and the 67 manual you just purchased would be a great collateral companion piece.
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