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COAL?
Jul 7, 2017 20:05:59 GMT -5
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Post by HRFunk on Jul 7, 2017 20:05:59 GMT -5
Ok guys, I'm going to take a stab at reloading the 9mm again. I'm using 124 grain Berry's plated RN bullets. In my old notes, however, I can't find what I used for an overall cartridge length. I'm thinking 1.150". How does that sound? I loaded up a dummy, and it seems to chamber and feed well (by hand) in several pistols.
Howard
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Jul 8, 2017 8:34:57 GMT -5
Post by CXM on Jul 8, 2017 8:34:57 GMT -5
I load my 9mm 115gr and 124gr to 1.125"
On my Dillon the differences in the two bullets don't seem to make any difference at all... they are reliable and as accurate as factory stuff.
FWIW
Chuck
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Jul 10, 2017 6:18:14 GMT -5
Post by huntershooter on Jul 10, 2017 6:18:14 GMT -5
You should be fine with that COAL using Ball/FMJ. JHP is a different story. You are wise to drop check your round in your respective barrels, before loading in earnest.
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Jul 10, 2017 13:24:41 GMT -5
Post by HRFunk on Jul 10, 2017 13:24:41 GMT -5
You should be fine with that COAL using Ball/FMJ. JHP is a different story. You are wise to drop check your round in your respective barrels, before loading in earnest. Thank you. I took a test batch out yesterday and ran them through my CDHP. Functioning was 100%, accuracy was descent, and the velocity was running an average of 1075 fps. The only fly in the ointment was the primers looked cratered. I'll back off the powder charge a few tenths of a grain and give them another whorl. Howard
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Jul 10, 2017 13:37:52 GMT -5
Post by CXM on Jul 10, 2017 13:37:52 GMT -5
Keep in mind cratered primers (but not pierced) are pretty common with factory ammunition too... it is a warning of increasing pressure... but it may be in some combinations. FWIW Chuck You should be fine with that COAL using Ball/FMJ. JHP is a different story. You are wise to drop check your round in your respective barrels, before loading in earnest. Thank you. I took a test batch out yesterday and ran them through my CDHP. Functioning was 100%, accuracy was descent, and the velocity was running an average of 1075 fps. The only fly in the ointment was the primers looked cratered. I'll back off the powder charge a few tenths of a grain and give them another whorl. Howard
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Jul 10, 2017 13:46:44 GMT -5
Post by HRFunk on Jul 10, 2017 13:46:44 GMT -5
Understood. I'll probably still back it off slightly. This stuff is just for practice. I'm not looking to cook up some nuclear powered load. I don't have any interest in battering my pistols either. I just want nice reliable ammo with a good level of accuracy. Howard Keep in mind cratered primers (but not pierced) are pretty common with factory ammunition too... it is a warning of increasing pressure... but it may be in some combinations. FWIW Chuck Thank you. I took a test batch out yesterday and ran them through my CDHP. Functioning was 100%, accuracy was descent, and the velocity was running an average of 1075 fps. The only fly in the ointment was the primers looked cratered. I'll back off the powder charge a few tenths of a grain and give them another whorl. Howard
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Jul 10, 2017 13:50:14 GMT -5
Post by CXM on Jul 10, 2017 13:50:14 GMT -5
Right, but I would not load much yet... with a 115gr bullet and velocity that might fall below 1000fps you might run into functional reliability problems... I don't want a 115 much below 1,100 fps. BTW, In the HP video where you had problems with Blazer ammo did you by chance notice the aluminum case Blazer was ejecting much shorter distances than the ammo you replaced it with? Take care... V/r Chuck Understood. I'll probably still back it off slightly. This stuff is just for practice. I'm not looking to cook up some nuclear powered load. I don't have any interest in battering my pistols either. I just want nice reliable ammo with a good level of accuracy. Howard Keep in mind cratered primers (but not pierced) are pretty common with factory ammunition too... it is a warning of increasing pressure... but it may be in some combinations. FWIW Chuck
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Jul 10, 2017 14:11:43 GMT -5
Post by HRFunk on Jul 10, 2017 14:11:43 GMT -5
No, I didn't pay that much attention to it. I'm certain the problem was ammo related. I didn't investigate it any further. I know when I switched up to the Gold Dot ammo, there was noticeably more recoil (which I expected). I suspected I just got a few bad rounds of the Blazer. I guess I can't complain too much. I've shot many thousands of rounds of the aluminum cased Blazer without a problem. I guess I was due for a few bad rounds. I only use Blazer for practice, never for anything serious, so other than being a minor annoyance, the damage done was minimal. Howard Right, but I would not load much yet... with a 115gr bullet and velocity that might fall below 1000fps you might run into functional reliability problems... I don't want a 115 much below 1,100 fps. BTW, In the HP video where you had problems with Blazer ammo did you by chance notice the aluminum case Blazer was ejecting much shorter distances than the ammo you replaced it with? Take care... V/r Chuck Understood. I'll probably still back it off slightly. This stuff is just for practice. I'm not looking to cook up some nuclear powered load. I don't have any interest in battering my pistols either. I just want nice reliable ammo with a good level of accuracy. Howard
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Jul 11, 2017 6:19:50 GMT -5
Post by HRFunk on Jul 11, 2017 6:19:50 GMT -5
Well, I dropped my charge about 2 tenths of a grain (I'm at 4.4 grains of HP38), and ran 17 rounds through my M&P 2.0 yesterday afternoon. Again, the functioning was flawless, and the accuracy continues to be quite good. This time around the cratering was less visible, though still noticeable upon close inspection. In any case, I think this is probably the load I'm going to run with. I didn't bother to chronograph the ammo I fired yesterday, but I suspect it's in the 1025-1050 neighborhood. Thanks for all the help, guys!
Howard
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Jul 11, 2017 8:09:35 GMT -5
Post by CXM on Jul 11, 2017 8:09:35 GMT -5
A good thing then... as long as the load functions you should be good to go... Chuck Well, I dropped my charge about 2 tenths of a grain (I'm at 4.4 grains of HP38), and ran 17 rounds through my M&P 2.0 yesterday afternoon. Again, the functioning was flawless, and the accuracy continues to be quite good. This time around the cratering was less visible, though still noticeable upon close inspection. In any case, I think this is probably the load I'm going to run with. I didn't bother to chronograph the ammo I fired yesterday, but I suspect it's in the 1025-1050 neighborhood. Thanks for all the help, guys! Howard
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Post by gt40doc on Jul 14, 2017 13:56:00 GMT -5
The only fly in the ointment was the primers looked cratered. I'll back off the powder charge a few tenths of a grain and give them another whorl. Howard I have to ask what brand of primers that you are using. The Federal primers are much more prone to show this effect than others, yet it does not necessarily mean an overcharge. I load a lot of 115gr FMJ bullets and use an OAL of 1.140-1.150 with no problems.
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Post by HRFunk on Jul 14, 2017 14:39:53 GMT -5
The only fly in the ointment was the primers looked cratered. I'll back off the powder charge a few tenths of a grain and give them another whorl. Howard I have to ask what brand of primers that you are using. The Federal primers are much more prone to show this effect than others, yet it does not necessarily mean an overcharge. I load a lot of 115gr FMJ bullets and use an OAL of 1.140-1.150 with no problems. Primers were CCI. I'm just erring on the side of caution. I don't think the charge was going to take any of my pistols apart. Nor take any part of me apart for that matter! Like I said above, though, I'm not looking for a super-powered cartridge. Just a good, reliable, accurate one. I dropped the powder charge to about 4.4 grains of HP 38, and I think it's going to work quite nicely. Howard
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Jul 15, 2017 8:25:59 GMT -5
Post by CXM on Jul 15, 2017 8:25:59 GMT -5
Howard, as an FYI the instruction booklet I got with my Dillon press advised against using CCI primers. No reason given, but I assume it was because of feeding problems... though I don't know that to be the case.
FWIW
Chuck
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Jul 16, 2017 9:28:08 GMT -5
Post by chris623 on Jul 16, 2017 9:28:08 GMT -5
Howard, another load option that I've found very nice to shoot in my Hi-Power, and accurate under a 115 gr FMJ, is 5.65 gr WSF, with a COL of 1.130". CCI primers. "Plunks" right into my chamber in a drop test and functions perfectly from the magazine. Average velocities around 1212 fps. You might try it for giggles.
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