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Post by craig on Mar 23, 2018 10:49:23 GMT -5
Pretty satisfied with my FEGs, but the one FN High power I'd like is a Capitan model. I'd appreciate hearing any or all info on them, & possible purchase leads. This is a long time interest, that may become possible in the near future.
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Post by CXM on Mar 24, 2018 10:50:28 GMT -5
Like most HPs they are nice guns. They have a Mauser rifle type sight on the rear of the slide... The sight was graduated to 500 meters (which seems rather optimistic to me... though I would not want to be shot at at that range as they might accidentally score a hit.) There are reports of some graduated to 600 meters I have never seen one.... presumably specially ordered for some military or another. This model was a premium gun which was rather more expensive to make... they generally command a premium price all other things being equal. This I suppose you would call a 'pre' Capatain model.. it is pre world war II. Here is a side view... Next is a 'real' Capatain made in the early 1990s and imported into the U.S. It is cut for a shoulder stock. The pistol has a very finely done blue finish and very nice stocks This is the Canadian version... not called a Capatain however... Here is an Inglis (Canadian Captain style) with an issue holster. I understand some Capatain model HPs were made in the 1980s in 7.65 Luger caliber but so far as I know none were imported into the U.S. I think one would bring a premium price. I would not be surprised if some were made in 9x21mm chambering as well. Hope that is of interest. V/r Chuck Pretty satisfied with my FEGs, but the one FN High power I'd like is a Capitan model. I'd appreciate hearing any or all info on them, & possible purchase leads. This is a long time interest, that may become possible in the near future.
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Post by craig on Mar 24, 2018 21:05:13 GMT -5
Yes the original early styling appeals to me, but the Capitan has the external ejector making it a bit more practical to own & use. It is the only FN HP I crave. I'm usually a few dollars short every time I see one. Hope gives us a purpose.
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Post by CXM on Mar 25, 2018 9:03:11 GMT -5
Here is one of my Captain models showing the right (extractor) side... I would not worry very much about the extractor... it is mostly myth/old wives tale about it breaking... I have quite a few high powers and I have never had one fail (plus I have a bunch of spares) on me... in fact in my years of shooting the only extractor failure I have every had was a SIG P226 that had one broken when I was trying to remove a stuck case. Should you get a chance at an older one at a good price I'd go for it... should you need an extractor at some point let me know... V/r CHuck
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Post by ToddSig on Mar 25, 2018 9:35:35 GMT -5
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Post by craig on Mar 25, 2018 9:52:09 GMT -5
Thanks for mentioning the difference between the slotted Vector & Browning import. Which one is the more costly? Like to hear about it - if you ever decide to let one go. Think I'd prefer the slotted vector. I'd probably sell my minty early import ramped PJK9HP FEG to get the $ ball rolling.
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Post by CXM on Mar 25, 2018 9:56:07 GMT -5
It could be, it came in the larger black plastic box... not import mark however. FWIW CHuck I have a Capitan from 1994. Purchased from a local gunboard a few years back. From what I understand both Browning and Vector Ams imported the Capitan in the early 1990s. Vector imported with a shoulder stock slot. I think the slide was marked Browning SA and they were shipped in the larger Browning case with foam inserts (like the FNs but marked Browning). I believe the Vector import mark is located inside the stock slot. I dont know if Browning imported the Capitan in the early 1990s with the shoulder stock slot. Mine does not have one, and the slide is roll marked with typical Browning Arms Company Morgan Utah & Montreal PQ. Chuck, is your Capitan a Vector import?
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Post by ToddSig on Mar 25, 2018 10:32:43 GMT -5
Craig, Keystone Arms has a couple of very nice tangent examples on Gunbroker, ending today. A 2003 Browning, currently at $1,251, www.gunbroker.com/item/755591500and a C series at $1,730, www.gunbroker.com/item/755582524Keystone typically has very nice offerings, and they get some strong prices. Here is a Vector import, that did not sell, had a buy now of $2,000 and a reserve. There were 2 bids up to $1,000. It has some good images, showing the import mark in the slot, and an original Vector ad. www.gunbroker.com/item/755317722
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Post by Bob Reed on Mar 25, 2018 19:43:41 GMT -5
Hello, A few years back, I lucked into a mint condition, transitional Capitan that has a 1994 Date Code in the serial number, and what's unusual/transitional about this gun is, it has a forged frame - but the frame has the machined lines around the magazine well (like what you'd expect to see on a cast frame). Most of you know what I'm talking about when I say machined lines around the magazine well, but if anyone doesn't, follow the link and look at the fourth photo down. www.hipowersandhandguns.com/What%20are%20the%20differences%20between%20the%20Mk%20II%20and%20Mk%20III.htmThe FN Factory date stamp (a HEX that's missing two side's with a single digit inside of it) shows that the frame was actually produced in the Second-Quarter of 1993, so it's not surprising that the frame is forged steel, but the machined lines around the magazine well did take me by surprise, because this is the first forged frame that I've ever saw them on. I've heard of a cast frame HP without the machined lines - but I've never heard of a forged frame with them. The date stamp on the slide's center rail shows that it was produced in 1994, and like mentioned above, the serial number has a 1994 date code. Over all, I'm very happy to own a Capitan and the only things I've done to it is, removed the disconnect, modified the factory safety into a single-side unit and removed the tangent sight so I could clean & oil under it. The factory wooden grip panels are in perfect condition and their rather fitting to The Capitan Model. Chuck, you're a lucky man to have one of the Browning S.A. (Society Anonyme) marked HP's. Todd, my '94 Capitan is several numbers older than yours.
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Post by ToddSig on Mar 26, 2018 7:46:19 GMT -5
Todd, my '94 Capitan is several numbers older than yours. Hi Bob, since you mentioned that our Capitan serial numbers were close, I checked my frame to see if cast or forged. It is cast, having both ripples and the casting mark.
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Post by pjk9hp on Mar 28, 2018 12:36:41 GMT -5
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Post by craig on Feb 2, 2019 12:21:59 GMT -5
IF anyone here is considering SELLING a slotted tangent sight FN, I'd love to hear about it, & prefer to do business with someone I know somewhat. I have watched some beauties sell recently even a NIB VECTOR - for way more than I can pay. so, I have lowered my expectations, to look for a more affordable specimen with some use wear(but not terrible)condition. It would be amusing to use a stock at some future time, so I need a slotted frame. It could be an early model, Inglis, etc.
I had considered looking for an orphan tangent slide - to fit to MY (ribbed slab side slide) FEGs Frame. But I'd probably be better off just selling the FEG. I will also need to sell off another mechanical toy, to buy one a tangent FN outright. So, if I do hear about one that is not currently on the market, it would give me time to raise the $$. I find that having a worthwhile goal - makes it easier to turn loose something you like (carrot on a stick principle).
Although I like my minty rare early ribbed "slab slide" FEG PJK-9HP, I'm not collecting, & have 2 traditional clones that I shoot - Feg/Mauser & Tisas BR9SS. Wonder what my Ribbed FEG could bring ?
Thanks, Craig
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