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Post by CXM on Jul 27, 2017 9:09:55 GMT -5
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Post by craig on Jul 28, 2017 15:19:37 GMT -5
If you like Soviet Block Stuff.... Heads up for those who like the Eastern Bloc guns... SOG has the P64 compact in stock @ $239. They also have spare magazines for $16... www.southernohiogun.com/p64-compact-police-pistol-9x18-cal.html Not a bad price for an unusual gun... AND!!! They C&R eligible!!!! V/r ChuckI really like mine. They are very well made & most have little wear. I tamed mine by using a stronger recoil spring & a softer hammer spring (for an easier DA first trigger pull, & less sharp recoil) Excellent results. Great little concealer. Well worth the investment IMO
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Post by sistema1927 on Aug 2, 2017 13:11:25 GMT -5
Probably the most painful pistol that I have ever shot. Even after changing springs and putting new grips on that beast it bites pretty hard. Mine is relegated to "last ditch" duty inside of a portable fireproof lockbox containing all of my important documents, some cash, and a stash of "junk" silver coins. The P64, 3 mags, and an extra box of 9x18 fill out this "grab & go" box, and I hope that I never need to use it.
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Post by CXM on Aug 2, 2017 14:15:04 GMT -5
I have never shot a P64... BUT... I have a Mauser HsC in 380... I can tell you that gun is just downright painful to shoot... After about four shots I put the gun down and don't shoot it again that range session... This is odd because I am not recoil sensitive... I shoot big magnums without problems... but that little HsC is literally a 'pain.'
This is strange to me... I have Colt's 1908 models and they are a pleasure to shoot... the FN/Browning FN140/Browning BDA380 is very pleasant to shoot... Same for the various permutations of the Beretta 84 series pistols. I have FN 1910s and 1922s in 380acp and nary a problem... I can't figure out whats wrong... but something is certainly wrong.
Anyone else have this sort of problem?
V/r
CHuck
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Post by sistema1927 on Aug 3, 2017 9:01:34 GMT -5
It would be easy to assign the problem to blowback as opposed to locked breach, but what throws that theory out the window is the fact that the Makarov and CZ82, both blowback design 9x18 pistols, are a pleasure to shoot while the P64 is a monster.
Some guns have the wrong geometry.
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Post by craig on Aug 6, 2017 9:44:48 GMT -5
Mine was a lot better with the spring change. Its value & recoil snap - are due to its small size & light weight. Admittedly not intended to be an all day range shooter, but a very effective pocket concealed belly gun, that feeds 9x18 HP flawlessly. Hope I never have to use it. Fills its job description successfully, is beautifully made, reliable & comfortable to carry. Being easy to carry is what it does more than being fired - All considered, cost, durability & longevity - a fair trade off IMO.
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Post by mw4570 on Aug 7, 2017 8:12:16 GMT -5
Thirty or so years ago, the only defensive handgun I had was a .380 Walther PPK/S, blow-back operated, obviously. I put thousands of rounds through it, many of them painfully. Over time, I developed a grip on the gun that prevented slide-cutting of the hand and reduced some of the overall pain. I wonder if the P64 can be fired enough to become accustomed to it, too? Probably not, if there is another handgun available. (Once I acquired another handgun, the PPK/s went into the safe and stays there! )
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Post by gt40doc on Aug 7, 2017 13:33:09 GMT -5
Thirty or so years ago, the only defensive handgun I had was a .380 Walther PPK/S, blow-back operated, obviously. I put thousands of rounds through it, many of them painfully. Over time, I developed a grip on the gun that prevented slide-cutting of the hand and reduced some of the overall pain (Once I acquired another handgun, the PPK/s went into the safe and stays there! ) I was given a new Walther PPk/S from a dear friend.....I still have it. When I would take it to the range, it would "slide bite" me on a regular basis. All of the mags that I was using in that gun had the extended mag shoe for your little finger. On one range visit, I realized that I had also brought a OEM std. flat based all metal mag. I thought, why not give it a go. I loaded it up, and began firing. Lo and behold.....no biting!!! Long story short, the mags with the plastic shoe caused me to take a higher grip on the PPk which lead me to being bitten. The flat based mag did not force my hand up so high. Well, I came home from the range and ordered 5 Walther metal flat base plates, and changed out all of my mags. I most certainly enjoy this gun a lot more now. Being a handloader, I load softer/lighter loads for my blowback 380 handguns, and full loads for the locked breech ones. A win-win for me.
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