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Post by ruber on Sept 21, 2017 9:52:01 GMT -5
Hi all,
There seems to be quite a knowledge base on this forum, so thought I'd throw this out there.
I didn't really need another 9, at all, really...
But several 92FS have been showing up locally in what looks to be excellent condition in a good budget range for me. So I have been checking them out.
Found one the other day with a very crisp trigger, maybe a little heavier than others, but less creep (which bugs me more than weight). No blemishes or holster wear, looked like very low round count compared with others I've at.
But, as new as it is to me, I am to the platform. I don't want to turn it into a competition gun, or even a range gun. So rather than dig through Brian Enos' forum, thought I'd ask you folks:
What are things I should be careful with, watch out for, have spare parts for, make sure I do, etc...
It is a 2012 produced Italian 92FS
Thanks!
Chris
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Post by Carolinaman on Sept 21, 2017 10:17:06 GMT -5
Hello Chris,
They are fine pistols and congratulations on the purchase! The only things that I would purchase for the pistol is a spare locking block and springs off the top of my head. I am sure that many more will show up as the U.S. Military goes into their Modular Handgun System and eventually phases them out of service. Personally, I have never had a problem with them and repaired one for a local gunshop last year that needed a new spring.
Great purchase and enjoy!
Chris
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Post by HRFunk on Sept 21, 2017 12:54:18 GMT -5
Hi all, There seems to be quite a knowledge base on this forum, so thought I'd throw this out there. I didn't really need another 9, at all, really... But several 92FS have been showing up locally in what looks to be excellent condition in a good budget range for me. So I have been checking them out. Found one the other day with a very crisp trigger, maybe a little heavier than others, but less creep (which bugs me more than weight). No blemishes or holster wear, looked like very low round count compared with others I've looked at. So.... I bought it. But, as new as it is to me, I am to the platform. I don't want to turn it into a competition gun, or even a range gun. So rather than dig through Brian Enos' forum, thought I'd ask you folks: What are things I should be careful with, watch out for, have spare parts for, make sure I do, etc... It is a 2012 produced Italian 92FS Thanks! Chris Good find Chris. I reviewed one a month or so ago for my YT channel and I was quite favorably impressed! I would say take it out an shoot it and worry about parts if/when you have a problem. Howard |
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Post by ruber on Sept 21, 2017 13:27:33 GMT -5
Thanks!
Seems everything I have is either a working gun or a bbq gun. Looking at this as a fun plinker.
Thanks for the tips!
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Post by CXM on Sept 24, 2017 9:40:20 GMT -5
I have a Beretta 92 I used to use to familiarize (maybe re-familiarize would be more accurate) our guys who were deploying to the sand box... I never cared for the 92, but it was what they would have to carry, so that is what we used... plus there were a bunch of them on the market cheap. As to parts, in recent months the auction sites have had Beretta 92 parts sets (most likely taken from de-comissioned police or military 92s) at pretty reasonable prices... I bought two sets... they were cheap and included everything but the slide and frame... Here is a link to one such set. www.ebay.com/itm/BERETTA-92-96-M9-FACTORY-PARTS-KIT-19-PIECE-FACTORY-BERETTA-NEW-ALL-METAL-/202041419525?hash=item2f0a9b6705:g:2fgAAOSwRaRZp040 There are other kits listed, so it might be worth checking them all out to see which offers the best value. A spring and pin kit is worth having too... www.ebay.com/itm/Beretta-M9-92-Replacement-Parts-Springs-Kit-M9A1-92FS-9mm-Made-in-USA-NEW-/162613885683?hash=item25dc8afaf3:g:7AgAAOSw4YJZZVjA The only part I have had to replace is the tiny little pin that holds the right safety lever on the gun. That pretty well took care of my future 92 parts requirements... If you look at the auction sites you may find some still available. V/r Chuck quote author=" ruber" source="/post/3243/thread" timestamp="1506005521"]Hi all, There seems to be quite a knowledge base on this forum, so thought I'd throw this out there. I didn't really need another 9, at all, really... But several 92FS have been showing up locally in what looks to be excellent condition in a good budget range for me. So I have been checking them out. Found one the other day with a very crisp trigger, maybe a little heavier than others, but less creep (which bugs me more than weight). No blemishes or holster wear, looked like very low round count compared with others I've looked at. So.... I bought it. But, as new as it is to me, I am to the platform. I don't want to turn it into a competition gun, or even a range gun. So rather than dig through Brian Enos' forum, thought I'd ask you folks: What are things I should be careful with, watch out for, have spare parts for, make sure I do, etc... It is a 2012 produced Italian 92FS Thanks! Chris[/quote] |
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Post by ruber on Sept 24, 2017 12:03:34 GMT -5
Awesome, thank you!
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Post by trooper on Oct 3, 2017 11:11:28 GMT -5
If you're looking for spare parts, I'd avoid the milsurp stuff and go with new parts from Beretta. The military's habit of outsourcing spare parts to second and third tier manufacturers has always been one of the problems with the M9 in service. Parts abtained from the manufacturer with usually give better service. Since you don't know the guns round count, I'd drop in a fresh recoil spring. Change that every 3-5 thousand rounds and you should be good. Beretta also recommends replacing the trigger return spring every five thousands pulls, as well as replacing the locking block every 25k rounds. I'd keep a couple of TR springs and a new locking block on hand, if the gun is going to be a regular shooter. I'd also recommend replacing the hammer spring with a Beretta 'D" spring, this will dramatically improve the trigger.
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Post by CXM on Oct 3, 2017 12:25:43 GMT -5
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Post by trooper on Oct 3, 2017 15:04:13 GMT -5
Wilson Combat offers a flat wire recoil spring for the 92. They advertise it as "the last spring you'll ever need", ie. it won't wear out. They made the same claims about their flat wire springs for the 1911 and I found that less than accurate. I've installed one in my training 92 as an experiment. Wilson also offers a chrome silcon trigger return spring with the same claims attached. I have one and when it's time to replace the current TRS in my training gun I'll install the Wilson spring. I intend to leave both in place until obvious signs of fatigue appear, so we'll see.
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Post by ruber on Oct 3, 2017 22:23:28 GMT -5
Hey all, thanks for all the info.
I've wanted to keep it fairly stock in terms of setup, does the D-spring effect reliable ignition at all? with rimfire kit?
Thanks!
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Post by CXM on Oct 4, 2017 8:06:41 GMT -5
Unfortunately Wilson's claims not withstanding, all springs wear out with use...
Recoil springs are cheap. I like to replace mine after 3k rounds... The springs are so cheap I keep some for the guns I shoot most in the bottom of my range maintenance kit (a surplus 50BMG can which makes a perfect maintenance kit, with some after market insert trays.) I also keep a few parts for the BHP and 1911 in the kit... I have only needed the parts a few times, but when I needed them I really needed them. I carry a tuned extractor for the 1911, a BHP extractor, pin and spring in a little zip lock bag, a firing pin/spring for both and a recoil spring retaining cap for the 1911.
For a Beretta I have a recoil spring in the kit.
FWIW
CHuck
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Post by trooper on Oct 4, 2017 17:00:03 GMT -5
Hey all, thanks for all the info. I've wanted to keep it fairly stock in terms of setup, does the D-spring effect reliable ignition at all? with rimfire kit? Thanks! I can't say on the rimfire kit as I've never used one, but the D spring will reliably ignite all primers. In all my 92s, this renders a DA pull of 7.5-8.0 pounds and an SA pull of 3.5-4.0 pounds. |
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Post by trooper on Oct 4, 2017 17:05:22 GMT -5
Unfortunately Wilson's claims not withstanding, all springs wear out with use... Recoil springs are cheap. I like to replace mine after 3k rounds... The springs are so cheap I keep some for the guns I shoot most in the bottom of my range maintenance kit (a surplus 50BMG can which makes a perfect maintenance kit, with some after market insert trays.) I also keep a few parts for the BHP and 1911 in the kit... I have only needed the parts a few times, but when I needed them I really needed them. I carry a tuned extractor for the 1911, a BHP extractor, pin and spring in a little zip lock bag, a firing pin/spring for both and a recoil spring retaining cap for the 1911. For a Beretta I have a recoil spring in the kit. FWIW CHuck I'm of the same opinion but thought I'd experiment with it. The irritating thing is the spring comes with a proprietary guide rod and Wilson doesn't offer the spring alone, so if it doesn't deliver as advertised you're replacing both every time. So, if the service life isn't exponentially greater the juice won't be worth the squeeze. |
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Post by ruber on Oct 4, 2017 20:28:47 GMT -5
I can't say on the rimfire kit as I've never used one, but the D spring will reliably ignite all primers. In all my 92s, this renders a DA pull of 7.5-8.0 pounds and an SA pull of 3.5-4.0 pounds. Great, thanks! |
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Post by ruber on Dec 4, 2017 15:02:33 GMT -5
I’ve been getting some rounds through the Beretta and am pretty pleased so far. I typically follow the clean, lube, shoot, repeat method for break in, and this one is settling in nicely. It started with close to a 6# SA pull but is now around 4 lb 4 oz.
I typically use a CZ 75B as a working gun, and my 80’s HP for recreation. I had been looking for another 9mm I can use more for casual range time, plinking, etc. I wanted something affordable but accurate enough that it would be fun to shoot.
A new CZ with a CGW kit would run $8-900 around here, I didn’t really consider that to be affordable in my current state.
I think this Beretta is fitting the bill (below with the 75B and my still favorite HP). After only a few hundred rounds, its trigger is much nicer than my Cajunized SP01.
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